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Info-Hams Digest            Sun, 12 Jun 94       Volume 94 : Issue  656

Today's Topics:
                           440 in So. Cal.
                    <<Best dual band verticals?>>
                          ANS-162 BULLETINS
                         Any Ham in CASARA ?
               Beware of RADIOKIT kits (IMHO) (2 msgs)
       Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 11 June
                           HTX 202 (2 msgs)
                    IPS Daily Report - 12 June 94

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Date: 12 Jun 1994 21:27:20 -0700
From: news.claremont.edu!kaiwan.com![e-mail]
Subject: 440 in So. Cal.
To: [e-mail]

Brian Suggs ([e-mail]) wrote:
> I've been following this thread with some interest from the point of view
> of someone who will be a newcomer on the airwaves. (I'm taking the license
> exams this weekend.)  From what I understand, as far as the FCC is concerned,
> a coordinated repeater has preference over an uncoordinated one should they
> be interfering with each other, and that is all.  My question is this: Who
> are the coordinating bodies and how are they appointed.  Is there any official
> (FCC recognized) status of these bodies, or could anyone form a group and
> claim to be a new repeater coordinating body?  Also, what criteria are used by
> coordinating bodies to resolve disputes, and are these criteria consistent
> amoung different coordinating bodies?  If someone gets a repeater to be
> coordinated do they get to keep their frequencies indefinitely, or can the
> coordinating body be persuaded to give it to someone else.  (and again, what
> criteria would they use to decide.)

Hi Brian.  By now you've taken that test.  How did you do?

These coordinating bodies form.  Their power basically is in acceptance
by the amateur community.  The FCC's only sanction of them are some warm
words in Part 97.  How disputes are resolved, and the rules about how
stations are coordinated, are up to these bodies.

In practice, it's a tough thankless job.

--
_[ Robb Topolski ][ San Clemente CA ][ [e-mail] ][ 192.215.30.2 ]_
Mattel has come out with a new Barbie doll for Christmas:  Divorcee' Barbie.
It comes with all the usual accessories, plus all of Ken's stuff.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 21:31:19 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!fmsystm.telemax.com!fmsys![e-mail]
Subject: <<Best dual band verticals?>>
To: [e-mail]

In article <2tdee3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Robert Penneys) writes:
>
>We are having some debate in the club about the best base station verticals
>for 2m/440.

We've used several types for the couple local clubs I'm involved with.
What always seems to work best is the Diamond X-500 or X-500RH.
Yes, they wave around a bit in the wind, but they work very well.
(We've tried others, but keep coming back to the Diamond X-500)

Diamonds will not withstand direct lightning strikes.  Some commercial
antennas seem to do better with lightning, but offer lesser performance.

Since we can buy a X-500RH (heavy duty version) for around $220, we've
decided to bear with replacing them when they are destroyed  by lightning.
Around here, thats about every two years for an tower mounted unit.

Note: for some reason we have not tried the similiar Comet.  I hear
other clubs have, and like it.  Also, its a good idea to seal up these
fiberglass antennas with silcone seal when you assemble them.  Every
once in a while, a leak around a joint will develop, probably from
the flexing in the wind.

Regards,
--
Macy M. Hallock, Jr. N8OBG  +1.216.723.3030  [e-mail] [e-mail]
Telemax, Inc. - F M Systems, Inc. 152 Highland Drive  Medina, OH 44256 USA

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Date: 13 Jun 94 01:20:28 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: ANS-162 BULLETINS
To: [e-mail]

SB SAT @ AMSAT   $ANS-162.01
DOVE VOICE TESTING STATUS

HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 162.01 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD JUNE 11, 1994
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-162.01


DOVE-OSCAR-17 (DOVE) Voice Synthesizer Testing Continues

At about 11-JUNE-94 05:30 UTC the DOVE Ground Command Team completed a
reload of the DOVE software and activated another voice test.  The pro-
nunciation of the word "Hi" is a bit different and the overall amplitude of
the voice is higher.  The text message is a greeting to those attending the
ARRL Convention and Education Forum.

The DOVE Ground Command Team expects to continue the hardware testing pro-
cess while simultaneously proceeding with software development.  It is
expected that this effort will probably last several days to a few weeks
before all the testing and software developement is completed.  There may
be times when the voice message will not be heard due to uploading of new
software.

It would be appreciate if reports on how well the voice can be heard with
simple receiving equipment (a H/T with a rubber duck antenna) could be sent
to any of the following individuals who have mail address on INTERNET:

          [e-mail]
          [e-mail]
          [e-mail]
          [e-mail]
          [e-mail]

Telemetry is not needed at this time.

[The AMSAT News Service would like to thank Jim White (WD0E) for this
 bulletin item. ]

/EX
SB SAT @ AMSAT   $ANS-162.02
IO-26 STATUS REPORT

HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 162.02 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD JUNE 11, 1994
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-162.02

ITAMSAT-OSCAR-26 (IO-26) Status Report

After a couple of weeks of being in the stand-by mode, IO-26, under ground
command, was switched back ON.  A new MBL code was successfully loaded to
test the modified s/c configuration (secondary TX on).  Telemetry shows all
the vital parameters in nominal status.   Further tests will be carried out
in the next days.  Also due to the very limited time budget of the command
stations please expect a few weeks before normal operations.

[The AMSAT News Service (ANS) would like to thank Alberto Zagni (I2KBD)
 for this bulletin item.]

/EX
SB SAT @ AMSAT   $ANS-162.03
WEEKLY OSCAR STATUS REPORTS

HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 162.03 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD JUNE 11, 1994
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
BID: $ANS-162.03

Weekly OSCAR Status Reports: 11-JUN-94

AO-13: Current Transponder Operating Schedule:
L QST *** AO-13 TRANSPONDER SCHEDULE ***  1994 May 07-Jul 11
Mode-B  : MA   0 to MA 170 |
Mode-BS : MA 170 to MA 218 |
Mode-S  : MA 218 to MA 220 |<- S beacon only
Mode-S  : MA 220 to MA 230 |<- S transponder; B trsp. is OFF
Mode-BS : MA 230 to MA 250 |        Alon/Alat 230/-5
Mode-B  : MA 250 to MA 256 |
Omnis   : MA 250 to MA 120 |  Move to attitude 180/0, Jul 11
[G3RUH/DB2OS/VK5AGR]

LO-19: LO-19 is on the air but only telemetry is being sent and there are
       are no BBS functions operational.  [WH6I]

KO-23: This bird and KO-25 are very busy at the present time with message
       and file traffic.  There have been a lot of new earth imaging
       files available for down loading on both birds.  The file
       KAIW008D gives a good image of the Italian penninsula in the Med.
      There is also a steady stream of WISP files as ZL2TPO keeps the
      his programing modifications coming.  Also, the program WISP can
       also be found on the BBS.  [WH6I]

AO-16: AO-16 is running strong, the only 1200 baud bird in operation at the
       present time.  [WH6I]

IO-26: IO-26 is sending telemtry, but the BBS is not yet on.  [WH6I]

The AMSAT NEWS Service (ANS) is looking for volunteers to contribute weekly
OSCAR status reports.  If you have a favorite OSCAR which you work on a
regular basis and would like to contribute to this bulletin, please send
your observations to WD0HHU at his CompuServe address of 70524,2272, on
INTERNET at [e-mail], or to his local packet BBS in the Denver, CO
area, WD0HHU @ W0LJF.#NECO.CO.USA.NOAM.  Also, if you find that the current
set of orbital elements are not generating the correct AOS/LOS times at
your QTH, PLEASE INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.  The information you
provide will be of value to all OSCAR enthusiasts.

/EX

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Date: 13 Jun 94 04:19:33 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Any Ham in CASARA ?
To: [e-mail]

    Greetings,

    I would like to know if their are any ham operators who work for
CASARA (Civil Air Search And Rescue Association).

Guy VE3 XGQ
Co-Sysop of the Sudbury Amateur Radio BBS 1:224/50
[e-mail]

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Date: 13 Jun 1994 00:15:05 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!hobbes.cc.uga.edu!aisun1.ai.uga.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Beware of RADIOKIT kits (IMHO)
To: [e-mail]

That is unfortunate.  Radiokit has been around for quite a few years;
surely they wouldn't have lasted that long if that kind of performance
were the norm.

--
< Michael A. Covington, Assc Rsch Scientist, Artificial Intelligence Center >
< The University of Georgia, Athens, GA 30602-7415 USA    [e-mail] >
< Unless specifically indicated, I am not speaking for the University. >    <><
For information about any U.Ga. graduate program, email [e-mail].

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Date: 12 Jun 1994 19:16:06 -0700
From: nntp.crl.com!crl2.crl.com![e-mail]
Subject: Beware of RADIOKIT kits (IMHO)
To: [e-mail]

In article <2tg8e9$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael Covington) writes:
>That is unfortunate.  Radiokit has been around for quite a few years;
>surely they wouldn't have lasted that long if that kind of performance
>were the norm.

Oh, I don't know, maybe they hired a MBA to run their quality control?

Jeff


--
Jeff Jones AB6MB            |       Remember nothing is impossible to
[e-mail]               |       a sick mind!

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Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 21:51:43 MDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs![e-mail]
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 11 June
To: [e-mail]

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                 DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY

                                  11 JUNE, 1994

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                  (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)


SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 11 JUNE, 1994
--------------------------------------------------------

NOTE: Electron fluence at greater than 2 MeV is at moderate levels.

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 162, 06/11/94
10.7 FLUX=086.4  90-AVG=081        SSN=080      BKI=3334 3323  BAI=015
BGND-XRAY=A7.3     FLU1=2.9E+05  FLU10=1.2E+04  PKI=3345 3223  PAI=020
  BOU-DEV=026,031,023,040,029,021,015,022   DEV-AVG=025 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= B1.8   @ 1735UT    XRAY-MIN= A6.7   @ 0822UT   XRAY-AVG= A8.7
NEUTN-MAX= +002%  @ 2205UT   NEUTN-MIN= -002%  @ 1825UT  NEUTN-AVG= +0.5%
  PCA-MAX= +0.2DB @ 1920UT     PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 2100UT    PCA-AVG= +0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55327NT @ 0208UT   BOUTF-MIN=55298NT @ 0929UT  BOUTF-AVG=55310NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT  G7-AVG=+080,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+149NT@ 1939UT   GOES6-MIN=N:-089NT@ 0913UT  G6-AVG=+108,+030,-029
 FLUXFCST=STD:086,086,086;SESC:086,086,086 BAI/PAI-FCST=018,015,010/018,015,010
    KFCST=3344 3333 3234 3332  27DAY-AP=030,030   27DAY-KP=3356 4334 4454 6433
 WARNINGS=
   ALERTS=**245STRM:1136-1526UTC(MOD-INTENSITY)
!!END-DATA!!

NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 10 JUN 94 was  39.0.
      The Full Kp Indices for 10 JUN 94 are: 2o 3- 3- 5o   3- 4- 3- 3o
      The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 10 JUN 94 are:   8  14  11  46  14  21  13  15
      Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 10 JUN is: 2.5E+08


SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
--------------------

             Solar activity continued at a very low level. Slow decay
       was observed in most regions and the east limb is quiet as seen
       in Yohkoh soft x-ray imagery. A small region emerged near
       N13E04 and was numbered as new Region 7734.

            Solar activity forecast:  solar activity should continue
       at a very low level. An isolated C-class flare is a slight
       possibility.

            The geomagnetic field was mostly unsettled. The period
       between approximately 0900-1200Z was at active to minor
       storm levels with some high latitude sites reporting major
       storming during that interval. Energetic electron fluxes
       at geosynchronous altitude were at mostly moderate levels.

            Geophysical activity forecast:  the geomagnetic field
       should be unsettled to slightly active. The most disturbed
       periods should occur near local nighttime. Isolated storm
       conditions are expected at high latitudes.

            Event probabilities 12 jun-14 jun

                             Class M    01/01/01
                             Class X    01/01/01
                             Proton     01/01/01
                             PCAF       Green

            Geomagnetic activity probabilities 12 jun-14 jun

                        A.  Middle Latitudes
                        Active                35/30/25
                        Minor Storm           20/15/10
                        Major-Severe Storm    10/05/01

                        B.  High Latitudes
                        Active                40/35/30
                        Minor Storm           20/20/15
                        Major-Severe Storm    15/15/05

            HF propagation conditions were near-normal over all
       regions.  No significant degradation was reported.  The
       strength of the anticipated coronal-hole disturbance has thus
       far been weaker than expected.  Conditions should remain
       near-normal over all regions throughout the next 72 hours.
       Sporadic minor signal degradation can be expected on
       transauroral night-crossing circuits.


COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================

REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 11/2400Z JUNE
-------------------------------------------------------
NMBR LOCATION  LO  AREA  Z   LL   NN MAG TYPE
7730  S10E22  128  0080 DAO  05  009 BETA
7731  N08E27  123  0090 DAO  03  003 BETA
7732  S09W67  217  0030 BXO  06  005 BETA
7733  N05W21  171  0030 BXO  06  008 BETA
7734  N13E03  147  0020 CRO  04  005 BETA
REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 12 JUNE TO 14 JUNE
NMBR LAT    LO
NONE


LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 11 JUNE, 1994
---------------------------------------------------
BEGIN  MAX  END  RGN   LOC   XRAY  OP 245MHZ 10CM   SWEEP SWF
     NO EVENTS OBSERVED


POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 11 JUNE, 1994
-------------------------------------------------------
     NO EVENTS OBSERVED


INFERRED CORONAL HOLES: LOCATIONS VALID AT 11/2400Z
---------------------------------------------------
               ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
      EAST   SOUTH  WEST   NORTH  CAR  TYPE  POL  AREA   OBSN
85   S17W05 S25W54 S20W64 N28W32  189  ISO   POS   024 10830A


SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    2695 MHz  8800 MHz  15.4 GHz
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------  --------- --------- ---------
NO EVENTS OBSERVED.


REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

                C   M   X     S   1   2   3   4   Total   (%)
               --  --  --    --  --  --  --  --    ---  ------
Uncorrellated: 0   0   0     0   0   0   0   0    000  ( 0.0)

 Total Events: 000 optical and x-ray.


EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
----------------------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    Sweeps/Optical Observations
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------   ---------------------------
                            NO EVENTS OBSERVED.

NOTES:
     All times are in Universal Time (UT).  Characters preceding begin, max,
     and end times are defined as:  B = Before,  U = Uncertain,  A = After.
     All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
     associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
     x-rays.  Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
     optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.

     Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:

          II        = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
          III       = Type III Sweep
          IV        = Type IV Sweep
          V         = Type V Sweep
          Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
          Loop      = Loop Prominence System,
          Spray     = Limb Spray,
          Surge     = Bright Limb Surge,
          EPL       = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.


**  End of Daily Report  **

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Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 21:22:37 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!fmsystm.telemax.com!fmsys![e-mail]
Subject: HTX 202
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bret A. Johnson) writes:
>I am looking for opions on the Radio Shack HTX 202 HT.

Pros:

Fairly easy to use.
Good intermod performance, well suited to urban/suburban areas.
Good sensitivity.
Uses easy to obtain accessories (same as a popular older ICOM model)
Inexpensive, RS was selling them for $188, I've seen them for $150
 at hamfests recently.  May be the best buy in a handheld today.
Durable.  Not a fragile unit.
Radio Shack will sell extended warranty, if you wish.
 (I prefer to use my Gold Mastercard's extended warranty program, BTW)
Well liked for packet operation in non-fringe areas.

Cons:

RS name is disliked by some (but unit _is_ well constructed)
Does not have advanced features some prefer.
Cannot operate out of band as other units can.
Larger and heavier than many current models by others.
Not a large number of memories.

In summary, a nice basic or entry level hand held 2m unit.
If you want small, highly featured or prestige, look elsewhere.
For basic, durable and straightforward, these are hard to beat.

I'm looking for one of these used for my son to use at Ohio State
this fall, for all the reasons above.  I hesitated and missed one
for $150 w/spkrmike at the hamfest today.  (Seems as though these
always sell quickly at hamfests, when priced below $188)

Regards,
--
Macy M. Hallock, Jr. N8OBG  +1.216.723.3030  [e-mail] [e-mail]
Telemax, Inc. - F M Systems, Inc. 152 Highland Drive  Medina, OH 44256 USA

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Date: Sun, 12 Jun 94 23:18:40 -0500
From: news.delphi.com![e-mail]
Subject: HTX 202
To: [e-mail]

Macy Hallock <[e-mail]> writes:

>Cannot operate out of band as other units can.

Is there an extended recieve code anywhere out there for this radio?
also, I'm sort of new to both HAM and internet, in the first message, there
was a series of codes, what in the world was that?
I'd appreciate any assistance, advice, or suggestions relating to this radio.

Thanks,
Larry Good, N2WNO

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Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 23:25:12 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!nac.no!nntp.uio.no!ifi.uio.no!wabbit.cc.uow.edu.au!metro!ipso![e-mail]
Subject: IPS Daily Report - 12 June 94
To: [e-mail]

SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
ISSUED AT 12/2330Z JUNE 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
SUMMARY FOR 12 JUNE AND FORECAST UP TO 15 JUNE

IPS Warning 16 was issued on 08 June and is current
for interval June 11-13.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: very low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 086/029

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             13 June            14 June            15 June
Activity     Low                Very low           Very low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 086/029

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
A solar filament near the centre of the solar disk has dissappeared.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: unsettled to active

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 11 June
    Learmonth       21  3344 4433
    Fredericksburg  21                          15
    Planetary       22                          16

Observed Kp for 11 June: 3345 3223


2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
DATE      Ap    CONDITIONS
13 Jun    20    Active.
14 Jun    16    Unsettled.
15 Jun    16    Unsettled to active.

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
Active levels expected June 13 due to coronal hole. Active periods
may be observed during June 16-17 due to dissappearing solar
filament.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
                LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH
12 Jun      normal         fair           fair
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
                LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH
13 Jun      normal         fair           poor
14 Jun      normal         fair           poor
15 Jun      normal         fair           poor
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
Degraded HF comms conditions expected today for mid and high lats.

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were about 15% above predicted monthly values

Observed T index for 12 June:  53

Predicted Monthly T Index for June is 30.

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
DATE   T-index  MUFs
13 Jun    40    About 10% above predicted monthly values.
14 Jun    40    About 10% above predicted monthly values.
15 Jun    40    About 10% above predicted monthly values.


4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
Degraded HF comms possible today.




--
IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney           |IPS Radio and Space Services
email: [e-mail]  fax: [phone]      |PO Box 5606
RWC Duty Forecaster   tel: [phone]      |West Chatswood NSW 2057
Recorded Message      tel: [phone]      |AUSTRALIA

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Date: 12 Jun 1994 21:47:52 -0700
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!paris.ics.uci.edu!news.claremont.edu!kaiwan.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <CSLE87-090694095911@145.39.1.10>
Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.

Karl Beckman ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Roger, from your callsign I can see that you hold a high enough class of
> license to know that you can either personally fill some of that
> underutilized spectrum with your own repeater, or join one of the smaller
> special interest groups that utilize 440 for their amateur radio
> activities. Open repeaters weren't the issue, access to spectrum was and
> continues to be the problem.

Karl,

The Subject: line of this message is still 440 in Southern California.
This is not Texas or Ohio.

If Roger wanted to put up a 440 repeater in Southern California, all
indications are this widely popular service would be co-channeled with
other open repeaters on about a half-dozen frequencies.  I don't have my
repeater guide with me, but I think six is pretty close to the actual
number of pairs -- out of all the 440 band -- where open repeaters are
coordinated.

Every other pair has a single or multiple closed-channel repeaters on
them -- if the repeaters exist at all (and many don't).

Now the "Scrubba" dudes can't be all bad -- this took some thought to
accomplish.  I don't think when this bandplan was formulated that they
figured that in the 1990's, 440 was going to be a popular band.

Times changed.  The method has become their madness.  We need to triple
the available "open" pairs and create a few for extremely high-level
wide-area signalling, a few for regional use, and a few for community use
on a shared CTCSS-controlled inputs.  And that would leave plenty of room
for the private repeaters.

Coordination has to be more assertive.  First come, first served may work
great at the bakery.  But in a city with borders, planning and
negotiating go hand-in-hand.  So XYZARC can't put their private repeater
on Mount Horizon at 500 watts Omni, they'll have to decide between Lookout
Hill at 50 watts or Polaroid Point at 100 watts with a Southern
directional.  Sorry fellas.  What's that? You want Lookout Hill at 150
watts Omni?  Well lets make it 100 watts and you can increase to 150
watts during your weekly net and during emergencies.  Fair enough?  Deal!

See? Easy!

73

--
_[ Robb Topolski ][ San Clemente CA ][ [e-mail] ][ 192.215.30.2 ]_
Mattel has come out with a new Barbie doll for Christmas:  Divorcee' Barbie.
It comes with all the usual accessories, plus all of Ken's stuff.

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